tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5543831264078787867.post1706723452385797609..comments2013-06-27T00:02:18.271-07:00Comments on Westerly Bytes: Arun Gupta, Java EE6, Spring and James BayerJeffrey A. Westhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11026880699671603108noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5543831264078787867.post-50961135153210247942012-03-28T08:39:16.419-07:002012-03-28T08:39:16.419-07:00Just to be clear, by 'both sides' I mean S...Just to be clear, by 'both sides' I mean Spring Champions and EE Champions :)Jeffrey A. Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11026880699671603108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5543831264078787867.post-35288116229968306132012-03-28T08:34:13.107-07:002012-03-28T08:34:13.107-07:00Thanks for your valuable comments -- it's good...Thanks for your valuable comments -- it's good to hear from someone inside the "mother ship" every now and then. I am also glad to have been able to provide some "entertainment".<br /><br />I see your point but have to disagree with you on the generalization that "both sides are guilty of making things personal". I am afraid I have a very different perspective on that. Since the years ago that this discussion started until this very day, I can honestly say I've made every attempt to keep this about the technology and not about the people (in fact, Caucho has specific policies around this). Whatever my personal beliefs as to the value of standards, I have also tried my very best as an independent consultant to remain objective, especially to best serve my clients. That sincere effort has been made close to impossible in large part due to SpringSource employees (it seems from the highest level to the lowest ranks) making no such consideration. Personally, I have had enough. If this carries on as something "normal", I feel I have no choice but to seek to change this behavior employing whatever mechanism that will work (if there is any). One thing I will not do is stop saying what I think because I believe the server-side Java community needs this to continue to be a two-way conversation.Reza Rahmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15223266103098677143noreply@blogger.com